Stillborn babies lost decades ago 'must be traced'
Oct 22, · What did the hospitals do with Stillborn babies in the s? Today when a woman has a stillborn baby, most often the stillborn baby is treated as a deceased infant; its turned over to a funeral. He nodded toward the window and I looked out on the oldest gravestones. it used to be known as The Paupers’ Plot, where the State buried the dead for families with no means. Stillborn babies were sometimes put at the foot of the coffins.” I decided to ring the cemetery Norman had talked about.
Families that lost babies more than 40 years ago should be told where baibes remains are, a cross-party group of MPs has said ahead of a Commons debate.
Before the s, when a woman had a miscarriage or gave birth to a stillborn hte, medical staff took the baby away quickly. They were rarely given time to grieve or hold their child, which was buried or cremated in an undisclosed place. The MP for Swansea East's mother gave birth to a stillborn girl in And her baby was taken away before she could say goodbye. After tracing a baby for a friend, Paula Jackson set up a website offering to help other families.
In the past 15 years, she has helped to trace nearly babies through stullborn charity Brief Lives Remembered. Why didn't I look at him?
It was too late, he'd gone," Yvonne said. Next morning - ready to go home, that was it. Paula said the women were kept in maternity wards, surrounded by mothers and their new babies, and in some instances were asked to breastfeed when others needed help. And in Aldershot Military Cemetery - where Paula traced the first "lost" baby - each plot was identifiable by a green marker. You need to talk it out. Brief Lives Remembered. Her family believes the baby was buried with someone else but they were never told where.
Communal plot. Yvonne, one of the women Paula has helped, gave birth to a stillborn son 40 years ago. Paula said families were effectively asked to carry on as though nothing how to make a balloon dog instructions happened. Left gravestones. In some military cemeteries, each baby was given their own burial plot. Some families have now traced their babies and left gravestones.
Others are left nameless. Nowadays, families are taken to a separate room to grieve and spend time with their child. Memory boxes are also provided, which include photos and hand prints. Carolyn Harris believes her mother suffered post-traumatic stress disorder.
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In or my Grandmother had a little girl die a few minutes after she was born she was born alive, but lived less than 15 minutes. There were some awful things that happened and may even have caused it like the doctor was drunk when he showed up to deliver the baby. My Grandmother never saw her daughter and it's haunted her to this day. My Grandfather is the only one who ever saw her and the things he saw he just this week started talking about.
My Mother is visiting my Grandparents and has been recording a lot of things about the family and what not. But the thing is, no one knows where this baby was ever buried. Apparently it was discouraged since she basically wasn't considered a person My Grandparents never even received a birth or death certificate.
So at this point my Mother assumes she was buried in "The Potters Field" next to one of the churches. But does that make sense, since my Grandfather paid for a burial? Or does that sound like it would be the case? I don't know what the going rate for a burial or plot was back then.
Since my Grandfather has started opening up about what he saw and experienced my Mother and I are just beyond furious including some treatment of her body I know times were different and what not then, but it was still wrong. But at this point, my Mom thinks it would comfort the whole family to just know where this poor baby was buried. Thats terrible my Cousin lost a litle girl and she was buried.
The worst part was she was over 9 months preg when she lost her. She got to hold her and name her before they took her away. This was the 's though. I wish I could help you. First thought that came to mind is the baby was sold and was never dead.
That's just horrible. Joined Dec 2, Messages 11, Purraise 24 Location hiding in the bathtub. The only thing you can do is contact funeral homes, churches, etc. Most babies were buried in an area reserved for things like that, with no markers or anything.
I don't know anything concrete about attitudes at the time in the US, but I believe they were similar to here, more of the 'forget it ever happened' type of thinking. Certainly here in the UK during the inter-war and post-WWII years a lot of people had become resigned to death due to their losses during WWI and II where often even in the case of adults there was never a body to bury and grieve over, that applied as much for people killed in the blitz bombings as for those with family killed in action.
People were used to mass graves of unknown soldiers somewhere overseas, or buried under rubble with no sign of them to be found, and death became something to be quickly grieved before moving on, necessary in circumstances of survival. It strikes a huge contrast with the earlier Victorian era in England where death was a part of life and was marked by strict social conventions in mourning periods and dress inspired at least in part of course by the mourning of Queen Victoria for her late husband , and elaborate funerary and memorial services for those that could afford it, including for newborns.
It was common for a photo to be taken after death or of stillborn babies "memento morii" to be sent to loved ones in cards or kept in a locket. It was the huge losses in the two World Wars that put an end to that culture, I think for so many people experiencing so much tragedy in trying times, there was no practical way of mourning involving burial and memorials, people became much more hardened to the idea of mortality, and memorial and public mourning went out of the window due largely to the practicalities of being bombed pretty much continuously and having to survive awful conditions and persisted for decades after WWII.
I feel for your grandmother. I don't know if what I have said is relevant to the US, you weren't in exactly the same position as England at that time, but a lot of people had gone to war and not come home, and the threat of the war being brought to your shores also, I think the mentality between UK and US in that early post-war time may not have been so different. I hope your grandmother finds the answers she is looking for, but alas I feel she may never get a clear answer.
Just be there to listen and to be a shoulder to cry on should she need it. Your story is so sad. My grandmother had 2 stillborn children in the 's.
My mom recalls going to the funeral services for both of them. I think what they did back then was what the family asked for. In the case of my mom's siblings one a girl and one a boy , the family took responsibility for burial.
If they had just paid for a general burial, I would suspect that the child was buried in a Potter's Field. Tracking down records back then could be very difficult to do. My grandmother had a stillborn baby in the early 's. I know they said they had the baby buried the next day, but the birth took place at home. Originally Posted by AlleyGirl The only thing you can do is contact funeral homes, churches, etc.
I'm so glad I posted this here. You've all given me great feedback on it. I think what I'm going to suggest to my Mother is to go to the Potters Field and take pictures of that.
Originally Posted by Crazyforinfo First thought that came to mind is the baby was sold and was never dead. It sounds as if the baby was born in a hospital; have you contacted them? This is going to sound like a long shot and probably is but there still may be nurses living who worked in that hospital. I realize they'd be quite old, but you never know.
You mentioned your Mom contacted the hall of records--I'm not sure if that's the same thing as a county clerk's office. Did your Grandparents attend a specific church? If you think the baby might have been buried in a church's cemetery, that might be another place to look for a record. I'm afraid this might be one of those cases that will never be resolved.
My own great-grandparents have no marker, so even tho' I have dates of death and the cemetery's location I really don't know where they are. Good luck finding some clue as to the baby's where-abouts.
Originally Posted by libby74 It sounds as if the baby was born in a hospital; have you contacted them? I agree with an above post. I think that your best bet is to contact the hospital. They have to have some record of who was working at that hospital.
Even though it was over 60 years ago there could very well be nurses still alive that you could contact. I am sure that if something bad enough to kill happened they would remember. Are you sure that what he saw would have killed her, or could it be that they just wanted him to think she was dead Joined Aug 14, Messages 16, Purraise 20 Location in the land of poutine and ice.
I would try nurses too, or maybe search to see if someone else went through the same thing and has gotten any further than you in their search. While it may not give ultimate closure, it may help some. Originally Posted by angelrn08 Are you sure that what he saw would have killed her, or could it be that they just wanted him to think she was dead I too would contact the hospital and obtain the records. The pathology department especially should have some records if there was a dead baby.
It also depended very much on the religion of individuals or even the hospital in those days- more so than now. My own example is of my own parents who lost a child at about 6 months. The hospital did not take responsibility for him the baby was male and the baby had to be buried by my father and some friends in a cemetery that went with our place of worship. Roman Catholics in the same hospital had to bury their babies in a section of the cemetery for people not baptized- why they were not baptized at "birth" I do not understand.
I am unsure about other religious practices. This does not occur now I am told. But I do believe your first point of entry is the records department of the hospital.
If they do not want to help you, then you will know something is up. Also contact whoever has the doctors files and ask for your grandmother's - or whoever in your family has responsibility for this. In all likelihood, this physician is not practicing if he is still among us so obtaining his records could pose a mystery. However, contact members of his family or other doctors he worked with and of course the hospital and they should point you in the direction of his files.
Sometimes, alas, physicians will place a notice in a newspaper when they terminate their practice and ask former patients if they want their files. I would also contact the Physicians Association and see if they can locate his records or at least where he went and even if they cannot give you personal info, they might provide you with his last address and colleagues' names. Good luck!